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TRUTH without Grace 

is a PRISON,

Grace without TRUTH 


"For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."

John 1:17





By  Authors

Sheila Wray Gegoire

Rebecca Gregoire Lindenbach

Joanna Sawatsky

     Sex is a gift from God. 

     How often have we heard that? It sounds kind of like something your parents would say right after they've scarred you by telling you where babies come from. 

     Or it sounds like something you're told in premarital counseling, right before your red-faced counselor quickly turns the pages and says, "Now, let's talk about who wants to do the vacuuming." 

It's something that your pastor says from the pulpit when he can't talk about sex too explicitly, but he  really, really, really wants everyone to know how great it is.  And you're trying hard not to look his wife in the face while he says it. 

     But for some of us who have been married for a while, the idea of sex as a gift seems more like that awful Christmas sweater your grandma knit for you in the sixth grade that you had to wear for a week though everybody knew it was lame.  

     Sure, it's a gift.  But you really would have preferred an Xbox.  Then there are those of you who know it's a gift.  You know sex is amazing.  But if feels more like a gift that you got to open, only to be told to wrap it back up and put it on a shelf to keep it safe.  It sits up there, still in sight but unused. 

Your sex life is up on a shelf.  It's a gift you're not allowed to enjoy because your spouse doesn't see it as a gift. So it's out of reach, gathering dust, taunting you. 

     In two Truth & Grace interviews, Leslie talks with authors Sheila Gregoire, her daughter, Rebecca Gregoire Lindenbach, and biostatistician Joanna Sawatsky, who surveyed over 22,000 Christian women on what was and wasn't working in their sex lives.  In addition, these women read best-sellers from the past forty years in the Christian industry and asked these women, "Is what they've been told working?"  And even more importantly, is it biblical?  The answers are astounding! 


Racism in the Body of Christ

     Following the murder of George Floyd on May 25, 2020, mass protests in the United States turned into a global movement for racial equality. Increased awareness of racial injustice has created a desire for reformation - and action - across large spectrums of society including

government, education, the military, business arenas, and entertainment.​

But how has the Church responded? 

     "I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that when it comes to racism, even though the world has moved toward equality, the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ has a muted voice," says Pastor Mike Moore. 

     Moore lives and pastors two churches in the heart of where the brutality of racism was born and bred; Birmingham, AL and Columbus, GA. Moore believes the Church at large has fallen short of its obligation to is members.  

     To help the Church move forward and join the conversation, Moore will be joining us on Truth & Grace to challenge the Body of Christ to speak out against racism, to change our laws and legislate just and equitable practices in government, business, education, entertainment, religion, and the media, to challenge the Church to speak out against racism and to practice reconciliation and unity.  If you want to know the heart of God, this is a program you don't want to miss.   

The Freedom Fight  Pornography

Ted Shimer

     This interview was so powerful and informative we turned it into a two-part series.  Join us on Truth & Grace as we discuss how pornography affects the users emotionally, mentally, physically, and spiritually.  

  • A Barna Group survey showed the monthly porn habit for Christian men is 64 percent, which is virtually the same to non-Christian men at 65 percent
  • From the same survey, 22% of young adults aged 18 to 24 consider porn to be good for society. 8% of that age group actually think it is “very good for society.” Nobody over age 50 thought so.
  • Pornhub has had 42 billion visits, 115 million daily visits and 170 years of new content created, according to a report they released in 2019
  • 54 percent of pastors said they viewed porn within the last year 
  • $3,075.64 is spent on porn every second on the Internet 
  • 1 in 5 mobile searches are for pornography 
  • 88% of scenes in porn films contain acts of physical aggression, and 49% of scenes contain verbal aggression 
  • 47% of all US families claim that pornography is an existing problem with someone in their home 

          Ted Shimer is passionate about equipping both the struggler and

those who want to help them with tools that lead to freedom

from a porn addiction. In 2017, after ten years of research,

evaluating over twenty different addiction recovery programs

and getting professionally trained, Ted launched the Freedom

Fight, an online porn addiction recovery program.  In our Truth & Grace interview, Ted will share with listeners the brutal impact of pornography on the lives of all it impacts, and how God can use the process of recovery to grow and develop the one learning to walk in freedom to live a more sacrificial and Christ-centered life.  Ted's story and solution to freedom from the bondage of pornography isn't found in a book or a program like many others, but in Christ. 

Becoming Whole 

After Divorce

Vicki Losson

     There are over 780,000 divorces in the United States annually, and 74% of those involved identify as Christians.   Divorces affect more than just the couple who married.  A failed marriage also impacts children, one's faith, family, friendships, church family, and more.

     Vicki Losson is no stranger to the devastating effects that come with a broken marriage; a loss of reputation, restraining orders, and financial ruin that affected every aspect of her life.   Through the support of family, friends, and her church, Losson was able to heal and create a new life for herself and her son.  She went on to rise above her circumstances; she become  a spiritual life coach and now helps others find hope and healing from their own divorces.  

     In this program we will talk with Losson  about how to prepare for healthy, safe relationships, identify and work through our barriers, past hurts, and blind spots, create a legacy of peace and happiness, and how to start a new chapter of faith, hope and love.  

John Elmore 

     What's your drug of choice?  Food? Sex? Pornography? Pills? Money? Social Media? Cocaine?  For John Elmore it alcohol, and it got really bad...

     "I PUT A SHOTGUN TO MY HEAD because I wanted my life

to end. I wanted the pain to be over. And I wondered if I could go through with it.  It was September 2005, and I was losing everything, including my sanity. I could feel the darkness around me. Insomnia, mania, nightmares, loss of appetite, risky behavior. I had three doctors tell me I would die if I kept drinking. I thought, Good. I want to die but don’t want to hurt my family by committing suicide. But I hope one morning I just don’t wake up.  I drank hard for twelve years straight and was a functional alcoholic. What an ironic justification: 

“Congrats! You are a total drunk who can hold down a job.” 

     After the horrific end of a relationship, I became a dysfunctional alcoholic trying to numb the pain. Three months later,  in a Wednesday morning, I was drinking with two homeless guys in Austin, Texas. I was so lonely. I told them to come sit with me and I would buy them whatever they wanted. This was a new low for me, and my family knew it. Five hundred dollars and eight hours later, my big brother was on a one way flight to Austin to put me in my own car and take me to Dallas for a family intervention..."

     In this Truth & Grace interview, Leslie and John talk openly about the addiction of alcohol, the defeat of sin, how to implement changes in your life to help you overpower your addiction, and other instrumental tools to help you walk out of bondage and into freedom!

Leslie Vernick

     There's been an epidemic of abuse towards women in the body of Christ that's been hidden, tolerated, and made excuses for centuries through the twisting of Scripture, and Leslie Vernick insists that something has to change. Emotional, mental, spiritual, and physical abuse within marriage must no longer be hidden, but exposed, and the darkness must not only be brought to light, but be held accountable. 

     Aside from being physically assaulted, victims of abuse are often in a constant barrage of criticism, disrespect, cruelty, deceit, and gross indifference, where their confidence is eroding and their spirit breaking.  Where does a woman of faith turn? 


     For any woman caught in a destructive marriage or relationship, Leslie's interview with Leslie Vernick will give hope for a path forward. Discussed in this interview is intensely practical, biblical advice that will show you how to establish boundaries and break free from the abuse that's keeping you in bondage and ways you can identify : 

·  damaging behaviors

· stay safe

· understand when, why, and even how to leave

· recognize that God sees and hates what is happening to you

     Trying harder to be a perfect fantasy wife won’t help fix what’s wrong your marriage. Discover instead how you can initiate effective changes to stop the cycle of destruction and restore hope for the future in today's broadcast.

Darryl Strawberry

     Darryl Strawberry is described as a baseball legend by many who have been dazzled by the dynamics of his game. His many ​accomplishments in the major leagues include four World Series titles, eight All-Star Game appearances, and a nomination to the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 2004. He has earned the legendary nicknames and phrases of one of the most feared homerun hitters in the game of baseball: Straw's Sweet Swing, Strawberry's Field Forever, and The Legendary Straw Man!

     Despite his successful sports career, Darryl's personal life was plagued with addictions, abuse, multiple divorces, jail time, and other issues that haunted him.  But that's not the end of his story!  Join Leslie as she and Darryl talk like old friends and he openly shares his story of years of self-defeat and self-mutilation through addiction and how God redeemed His life, and how He can do the same in yours.  

My Name is TANI...

And I Believe in Miracles

      Tani Adewumi is the ten-year-old Nigerian-born boy who won the NY State Chess Championship after playing the game for only a year. 

     The Adewumi family’s story begins amidst Boko Haram’s reign of terror in their native country of Nigeria and takes them to a New York City homeless shelter, where they waited to be granted religious asylum. Kayode, Tani's father, came from a royal Nigerian family, and to support his family in America became a dishwasher and Uber driver. His wife, Oluwaytoyin, whose family owned the largest printing press in Nigeria and had been working at a bank for over a decade, trained to become a home-aid. 

      Money was tight for the Adewumi family, so, when Tani asked to join the chess program at PS 116, which required a fee, it seemed financially unlikely. Oluwatoyin wrote to the coach, who offered Tani a scholarship. A year later, Taniwas the New York State Chess Champion at only nine years of age.  

     Join me as I interview Tani and Kayode and hear about the countless miracles of how God spared their lives from Boko Haram in Nigeria, brought them to America and provided for them in amazing ways, and ultimately leading them to turn the miracles God gave them into a foundation to help other refugee's in need.  

     Paramount movie to be released in 2022. 


Survivor: An Abortion Survivor's Surprising Story of Choosing Forgiveness and Finding Redemption

     Raised in a loving adoptive home, Claire Culwell, at the age of twenty-one, decided to meet her birth mother—and got the shock of her life. Claire’s birth mother, Tonya, confessed that when she was pregnant with Claire, she’d gone to a clinic for an abortion. Yet, after the abortion, the pregnancy continued to progress. What Tonya’s doctor had overlooked was that she’d been pregnant with twins. The abortion that terminated the life of Claire’s twin had miraculously spared Claire.

     Claire embraced the unique circumstances, soon sharing her story with the world and urging her listeners to understand how abortion takes the life of a child. When Claire faced her own unplanned pregnancy as a single woman, she embraced the added opportunity to step into the shoes of those she advocates for. Her heart grew bigger on the issue of life, which increased her extension of empathy and grace to women in pregnancy crisis. At the same time, she began to challenge churches to truly value not just the unborn but also the women who face unexpected pregnancy.

     Join Leslie and Claire on Truth & Grace as they discuss Claire's incredible story of surviving abortion and advocating for life.  The twists in this program will surprise many. 

Willie Wooten 

     As Covid-19 cases surged in the United States in March 2020, stay-at-home orders were put in place. Schools closed, and many workers were furloughed, laid off, or told to work from home. Bereavement, isolation, loss of income and fear began to trigger mental health conditions or exacerbate existing ones like a domino effect around the world that hasn’t stopped as the pandemic and different strains continue to steal the health and lives of our loved ones. Widely reported studies modelling the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic reveal a startling increase in levels of behaviors that are self-harming and harmful to others around us, and as a result, are slowly ripping each nation apart one limb at a time.

     As many countries face new stay-at-home restrictions to curb the spread of COVID-19, suicide rates have increased from 1% to 145% due to the stressors of increased thoughts and behaviors of self-harming and lack of access to mental health resources.  Neilson reports indicate that in March of 2020 alone, when stay-at-home restrictions were first put in place, alcohol sales in stores went up 54% compared to May of 2019, and online sales went up nearly 500% the following month.  In addition, over 81,000 drug overdose deaths occurred in the United States in the 12 months ending in May 2020, the highest number of overdose deaths ever recorded according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

   Join Leslie (a former full-time counselor w/ trauma & crisis training) and her long-time friend and former Director of Counseling for Focus on the Family, Willie Wooten, as they discuss how to deal with the stress of the pandemic and implement in-home practices that will keep you safe emotionally, mentally, physically and spiritually.    

Eve Tushnet

An Open Discussion About Faith & Homosexuality

      Eve Tushnet knew early in life that she was a both a lesbian and an atheist.  But when she started college she met a group of people who began talking with her about God's love for her, a message homosexuals never hear from bullhorns or picket signs.  Eve asked questions and these friends gave biblical answers with tenderness and love.  

     When Eve decided to give herself wholly to Christ and live a life committed to Him, she knew she could no longer live life as a Lesbian.  Join Leslie and Eve for an honest conversation about homosexuality, faith, loving one another, and living with same-sex attraction without expectations and demands from the Church, but in obedience to Christ. 

Victor Torres

The Power of Redemption

     What does a son's rebellion, a mother's love, and David Wilkerson's Teen Challenge have in common? The real-life struggle and redemption story of young gang member and heroin addict Victor Torres, as shown in the movie, Victor

     When the Torres family moves from Puerto Rico to Brooklyn, New York, they find themselves stuck in poverty and depression.  As a result, young Victor searches for a place to fit in - and finds it with the Roman Lords street gang.  Drawn in by the brotherhood of the gang and enslaved by a growing  addiction to heroin, Victor's actions put his family and his life in danger as he goes face to face with rival gang members on daily basis, including the now infamous Nicky Cruz.  It's only when his mother, Lila, meets street minister David Wilkerson, who introduces her to God, that she sees a way to save Victor from the path he's chosen. 

     After many failed attempts in recovery, Lila talks Victor into going into a new recovery program led by Pastor Wilkerson.  When he shows up, enemy Nicky Cruz is there to welcome him along with other rival gang members.  Victor goes on the defense, pulling out a knife, and sleeping with one eye open.  But as he goes through withdrawals, it's the men who had once tried to kill him that were now fighting for him to live.

     In his powerful interview with Leslie, Victor recounts his story on the streets of New York, how enemies turned friends, how God delivered him from his addiction to heroin, and in turn how God has used him to help thousands of other young adults find freedom from gangs and addiction, and how you can help your loved one do the same.  



     When 30-year-old megachurch pastor and mental health advocate Jarid Wilson committed suicide three years after founding Anthem of Hope, a Christian organization meant for those struggling with mental health issues like the his long-term battle with depression, it rocked the evangelical world.  In one of his last Twitter feeds before his death he wrote, "Loving Jesus doesn't always cure suicidal thoughts." No one knew that better than Sarah J. Robinson.

     In her interview with Leslie, Sarah shares her story of battling depression and fighting to stay alive despite toxic theology that made her afraid to seek help outside the church. Pairing her own story with scriptural insights, mental health research, and simple practices, Sarah talks about reconnecting with the God who is always present in our deepest anguish.

     Through her own experience and wisdom, Sarah encourages listeners with ways they can have a hope-filled life in Christ, even when healing doesn’t look like what they expect.


      We all want to thrive in our life with Jesus, but sometimes God seems far away, Bible reading feels dry, prayer feels like going through lists, church becomes boring, or the activities that used to nourish us have stopped working.  To make matters worse, the typical approaches to spiritual growth that focus only on beliefs and behavior are not enough. Christians are more than a brain on a stick or a human-doing - they have a soul created and valued by God. 

     The whole person needs to be shepherded in God’s grace with empathy and wisdom that’s tailored individually. In her interview with Leslie, Dr. Kristi Gaultiere, co-founder of Soul Shepherding, draws on more than 70,000 hours of providing therapy and spiritual direction to show listeners how to identify their current stage of faith and the next steps to take based on their unique needs and struggles.

     Within their conversation, Kristi uses characters in the Bible, church history, and personal stories to illustrate the six stages of faith, providing listeners practical steps to growing emotionally and spiritually.

"How many followers of Jesus have asked themselves, 'Is this all there is?'" Kristi asks, then answers. "'There is so much more!' 


     There is no greater tragedy than for someone to go through their entire life thinking they are a Christian only to hear these seven fateful words at death: "I never knew you; depart from me" (Matt. 7:23).

     A.W. Tozer said, "It is my opinion that tens of thousands, if not millions, have been brought into some kind of religious experience by accepting Christ and they have not been saved."

     How can you be sure that your profession of faith is more than just words?  During Leslie's interview with Denise, she explores the mystery of salvation through the Scriptures and personal stories, and in closing, Denise challenges them to examine themselves to see whether they are in the faith just as the Apostle Paul challenged the Church in Corinth. 

Rooms of a Mother's Heart

     For thousands of years and in a myriad of cultures, women have forged identity, unconditional love, and vast purpose in the calling of motherhood. From Eve to Sarah, from Ruth to Mary, the Scriptures are filled with the accounts of the heart of a mother who was given a divine opportunity to raise the next generation for the purposes and call of the Father.

     Inside the soul of every mother lies a heart that becomes a repository of sweet memories, hard lessons, glorious victories, ordinary days, glaring failures, and God’s grace over the years of mothering. The heart of a mother becomes home to jokes around the dinner table, holiday​ traditions, the tears of childhood, and the love that only a mother knows. And this tender heart that has given birth to the future of mankind or has lovingly adopted the seeds of the next generation also develops rooms of unsurpassed greatness and quiet strength. These are the Rooms of a Mother’s Heart.

     With their shared joy and love in Christ, Leslie and Carol talk like sisters over a cup of coffee about what it means to be a mother  to all women who accept that calling.

     Join us for this Mother's Day Special. 

Don't Believe the Swipe

     Online dating. Dating apps. Texting. Social media. Endless swiping in search of forever love. It seems like the more ways technology offers to "connect" us, the less connected we actually are. Modern dating is not for the faint of heart!

     New York Times best-seller Mandy Hale joins Leslie to talk about her latest book, Don't Believe the Swipe, and it's not your mother's dating guide; it isn't about "landing a man" or learning to "think like a man" or "getting any man to fall in love with you. It's about learning to date without surrendering your power. It's about choosing to love yourself.

     As Leslie and Mandy discuss all-things dating, Mandy draws on her own hilarious and often jaw-dropping experiences to illustrate what it means to stop believing the swipe and start finding love without losing yourself. You don't want to miss this interview!

Fully Known

     We were made for intimacy--spiritual intimacy with God that brings oneness and bears powerful fruit. We were made to know Him and be known by Him, fully. So why do we often feel burnt-out, distant, and disheartened in our journey of faith? How do we cultivate true intimacy with God? And what does His design of physical, sexual intimacy unveil of the full Gospel story?

     Sharing Word-backed, Holy Spirit-breathed revelation with humility and openhanded honesty, New York Times bestselling author Mo Aiken talks with Leslie about the beauty and power of life lived in active communion with God, rather than the self-seeking, counterfeit faith we've settled for. Unpacking eternity-defining concepts that have become confusing, offensive, or altogether ignored--like submission, repentance, sanctification, holiness, and discipline--Mo shows us how God has given us a physical model of spiritual intimacy through His design of marriage, sex, and family. Exposing many roots of selfishness and perversion we see so often in our relationships, both human and divine, she invites us to pure-hearted and transformational communion with our Creator.

     If you've felt far from God, caught in broken relationships, dead in religion, and longing to be fully known, join Leslie and Mo in this discussion about true intimacy with God. 

And Then the End Will Come

     Did you know that the global church is only a few years away from fulfilling Jesus' command to "make disciples of every nation?" And that Jesus explicitly tied his return to the completion of that task?

     In his interview with Leslie, Douglas Cobb, founder of the Finishing Fund, provides a front-line account of the effort to finish Jesus' Great Commission in our lifetimes. He also explores nine other Biblical clues that Jesus is coming soon, including the approaching 2000-year anniversary of the resurrection, the regathering of Israel, and the prophecies of Daniel 12.

Douglas makes the case that the return of Christ is at hand -- perhaps in the next year or two, perhaps a little later, but assuredly very soon. And he offers practical instruction about what it means to "live holy and godly lives" as we look for the coming of our Lord and King.

     If you're discouraged about the craziness you see in the world today, this interview will offer you hope for better things soon to come -- things so great that the Bible says no one can imagine how awesome they will be.

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     May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and Leslie is not letting it slip by without addressing some of the most prevalent issues present in the world today, including Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and cutting.  Joining her in two, one-hour interviews on the topics is Dr. Jeremy Lelek, President of the Association of Biblical Counselor and of Metroplex Counseling in Dallas, Texas, and Adjunct Professor at Redeemer Seminary in Dallas.  

     As Leslie implores Dr. Lelek on Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and the deep pain of those who suffer within it's grasp in the May 6th podcast, he points to many factors that prevent sufferers from coming forward, barriers that prevent healing, spiritual strongholds that withhold moving forward, and the lies that keep us from started healing in the first place.

     In the May 20th release on cutting, Dr. Lelek talks about how when feelings of guilt, worthlessness, or self-condemnation set in, some people seek painful release in their own flesh and blood. While cutting can bring temporary relief, he says, it falls far short of the genuine change that is essential to true healing of the heart.  What is the answer?  Is it even possible? Tune in for this session to find out!